Comments on: The Microsoft/Danger/T-Mobile Sidekick Fiasco is NOT a Failure of Cloud Computing! http://blog.gogrid.com/2009/10/13/the-microsoftdangert-mobile-sidekick-fiasco-is-not-a-failure-of-cloud-computing/ "Control in the Cloud™" Thu, 11 Mar 2010 15:49:38 +0000 hourly 1 By: GoGrid_Michael http://blog.gogrid.com/2009/10/13/the-microsoftdangert-mobile-sidekick-fiasco-is-not-a-failure-of-cloud-computing/comment-page-1/#comment-2276 GoGrid_Michael Fri, 16 Oct 2009 18:43:20 +0000 http://blog.gogrid.com/?p=1289#comment-2276 First, the media is extremely vague at defining what the cloud is. There are many factors to it: Infrastructure (e.g., GoGrid/AWS), Platform (e.g., Google, Azure), Application (e.g., SalesForce, Gmail). The problem is people are now generically saying "oh, my data is in the cloud" because it is a "cool" thing to say. It makes them sound like they are up to date on the terms. Ok so, the data is first hosted somewhere, just like anything on the net (e.g., this blog - you request the data from it via HTTP). The data (hopefully for something like the Sidekick stuff) is distributed across multiple servers (e.g., clustered). This is something that has been done for years, long before "Cloud Computing" term. What failed is not the cloud, but the processes for backing up the data when Danger or whomever decided to upgrade the SAN (where the data was stored). THAT process failed. That is not the Cloud. Also, the design of the Sidekick data services failed because there was no individual user backup of their personal data. Remember, "the Cloud" is not "the Internet" (at least not exactly). Pulling data from the Internet is not pulling data from the Cloud. Unfortunately, everyone has made the term even more vague. Sidekicks were around long before the term "Cloud Computing". I used many. There were service and data issues periodically. So, what was THAT a failure of? Obviously not the cloud. Would love to hear other people's thoughts on this. Obviously I'm a bit passionate about this so feel free to reel me back! First, the media is extremely vague at defining what the cloud is. There are many factors to it: Infrastructure (e.g., GoGrid/AWS), Platform (e.g., Google, Azure), Application (e.g., SalesForce, Gmail). The problem is people are now generically saying "oh, my data is in the cloud" because it is a "cool" thing to say. It makes them sound like they are up to date on the terms. Ok so, the data is first hosted somewhere, just like anything on the net (e.g., this blog – you request the data from it via HTTP). The data (hopefully for something like the Sidekick stuff) is distributed across multiple servers (e.g., clustered). This is something that has been done for years, long before "Cloud Computing" term. What failed is not the cloud, but the processes for backing up the data when Danger or whomever decided to upgrade the SAN (where the data was stored). THAT process failed. That is not the Cloud. Also, the design of the Sidekick data services failed because there was no individual user backup of their personal data.

Remember, "the Cloud" is not "the Internet" (at least not exactly). Pulling data from the Internet is not pulling data from the Cloud. Unfortunately, everyone has made the term even more vague. Sidekicks were around long before the term "Cloud Computing". I used many. There were service and data issues periodically. So, what was THAT a failure of? Obviously not the cloud.

Would love to hear other people's thoughts on this. Obviously I'm a bit passionate about this so feel free to reel me back!

]]> By: UMDivX http://blog.gogrid.com/2009/10/13/the-microsoftdangert-mobile-sidekick-fiasco-is-not-a-failure-of-cloud-computing/comment-page-1/#comment-2275 UMDivX Fri, 16 Oct 2009 18:23:49 +0000 http://blog.gogrid.com/?p=1289#comment-2275 I still don't understand how you don't think this is "technically" a "cloud" failure. Your data is stored remotely, IE it is accessed over the "cloud". The term cloud doesn't just mean the connection medium, it is everything that is involved with it. So because the server or in this case the storage mechanism involved with it, failed, yes I would consider this a failure of "cloud" computing. - Josh I still don't understand how you don't think this is "technically" a "cloud" failure. Your data is stored remotely, IE it is accessed over the "cloud".

The term cloud doesn't just mean the connection medium, it is everything that is involved with it. So because the server or in this case the storage mechanism involved with it, failed, yes I would consider this a failure of "cloud" computing.

- Josh

]]> By: Sidekick Failure: Another case for SAN Backups « Dynamic Network Factory Blog http://blog.gogrid.com/2009/10/13/the-microsoftdangert-mobile-sidekick-fiasco-is-not-a-failure-of-cloud-computing/comment-page-1/#comment-2267 Sidekick Failure: Another case for SAN Backups « Dynamic Network Factory Blog Thu, 15 Oct 2009 17:21:42 +0000 http://blog.gogrid.com/?p=1289#comment-2267 [...] was thousands of Sidekick users stuck without their data. Here are five tips he presents in his blog post, that are critical for any IT department to [...] [...] was thousands of Sidekick users stuck without their data. Here are five tips he presents in his blog post, that are critical for any IT department to [...]

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